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Five contradictions in restricting the use of 'Allah'

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There are major contradictions in the claim that the word 'Allah' belongs only to Muslims and Islam and does not apply to non-Muslims and other religions (JAKIM), and in the insistence that non-Muslims must convert to Islam to use the word 'Allah' (Perak's mufti Harussani Zakaria).

The contradictions are as follows.

1. If we disallow non-Muslims from using the word 'Allah', are we implying that Allah has no relation to the non-Muslims, that Allah did not create the non-Muslims, but to whom Allah must belong if He is the Creator of all things?

2. If we say Allah is not the god of the non-Muslims, does this not imply that besides Allah there must exist a second god specifically for the non-Muslims, the former god of Muslim converts? Does this not clash with the Islamic concept of tauhid, which proposes that there cannot possibly be another god apart from Allah, and that no being can perform the work of a god other than Allah?

3. If we maintain that 'Allah' has no relevance to other religions, who then ultimately created these religions if not Allah, the Creator of all things? Are we suggesting that Allah got it wrong before unveiling Islam? But if tauhid is to stand and Allah is the sole Creator, and if Allah is infallible, perfect and all-knowing, does it not mean that Allah happily created, with no games intended, all the variety of religions and religious philosophies including Christianity and Hinduism?

4. Therefore how can it be wrong for a Hindu, a Christian or a freethinker to refer to 'Allah' as our one common god? Must Sikhs, who are not Muslims, stop using the word 'Allah', though 'Allah' appears numerous times in their holy book, which is not the al-Quran?

5. If non-Muslims must convert to Islam before referring to 'Allah', is that to say Allah was not their Creator prior to them converting? But how can that be if Allah created everything and there is no god other than Allah? If we say non-Muslims are non-believers who do not recognise Allah, then why deny them the use of the word 'Allah' to recognise this Supreme Being and Ultimate Cause?

The restrictions on the use of 'Allah' conflict with the core tenets of Islam. They conflict also with those of other religions.

Therefore we need an open and respectful discourse involving all the affected groups in this matter.

This is to attain a better understanding of Islam, of other religions, of the nature of religion and god in general, and of the reality of living in a multi-religious society.

It is not enough for Islamic religious officials alone to convene and make decisions. Blindly accepting this or that authority's unilateral interpretations or decrees cannot be the way to go. A resolution can only be found collectively.

It is thus necessary for each of us and all of us to question, discuss and learn widely to get closer to the truth. This is an essential counsel in Islam and in other religions.

It is clear that the exclusivist mentality of “this is for us, not for them, we are not the same so we cannot share” is not sustainable. It must be discarded.

We cannot escape from pursuing a broad-minded vision of religion that celebrates diversity and emphasises the shared values and other similarities across faiths.

Comments (30)
  • Samuel Goh Kim Eng  - ENEMY WITHIN OR OUTSIDE? - 170313

    The enemy within is often worse than the one outside
    By playing foul most of the time from the offside
    And declaring others as enemies without insight
    Only to regret later, with truth respected , at hindsight

    (C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng
    http://motivationinmotion.blogspot.com
    Sun 17 Mar 2013.

  • Samuel Goh Kim Eng  - WORD OWNERSHIP? - 160313

    Can anyone own any word in public usage
    Regardless of what the word is in any language
    Can one simply claim and keep it in a baggage
    As though it is strictly part of personal luggage

    (C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng
    http://motivationinmotion.blogspot.com
    Sat 16 Mar 2013.

  • Samuel Goh Kim Eng  - CORRECT OUTLOOK OF BOOK - 040313

    When dealing with the "people of the book"
    Be sure to take a deeper and proper look
    To ensure that you have the correct outlook
    For God will not easily get you off the hook

    (C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng
    http://motivationinmotion.blogspot.com
    Mon. 4th Mar 2013.

  • Samuel Goh Kim Eng  - FROM NONSENSE TO VIOLENCE? - 080213

    There's always a great deal of nonsense
    Coming from those easily confused and angered
    Displaying a serious lacking of commonsense
    When faced with any situation they felt endangered

    (C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng
    http://motivationinaction.blogspot.com
    Fri 8th Feb 2013.

  • Tony Cheok  - In reply to Pak Yeh

    First and foremost, Christians (believers and followers of Christ Jesus) do not call 'Father' for Pastors/Reverends, only the Roman Catholics.
    Secondly, the word Allah was used by the Arabs for their Pagan gods long before Islam came into being. Thirdly, maybe you should do a little research on how Islam came about, who created it to deceive who. Finally, whatever our beliefs it may be, we are put into this world for a race till the end. A race not who first, but who best in service to our God - the one and only mighty God.

  • Tee Ann  - re: I have used the Allah since I was a child and
    prasanna krishnan wrote:
    I do not wish to get into any form of confrontation with the use or non-usage of the word Allah.

    I come from Johore and am very proud to be a Johorean. I have sung the State Anthem since I was a student age 6. I have sung it proudly and gladly. I have sung it waving state flags made by us students and waved it as our Sultan drove past - in the streets, in the school and in the padangs.

    Allah peliharakan Sultan
    .....Allah selamatkan Sultan.

    I will continue to sing this anthem. In school most of us who grew up in the fifties and sixties used the world Allah very freely and spontaneously and nobody stopped us for we all knew we were referring to God, no matter what our particular religious denominations or affiliations may be.


    From now onward, lyrics in the Johor anthem for non Malays will be,
    "Oh God, peliharakan sultan.
    Oh God, selamatkan Sultan."
  • God Fearing  -  The God of Abraham

    Is Allah The God of Abraham? If all Muslims scholars in the world accept others to use the word "Allah", and not even all Muslims in Malaysia stop non Muslims using "Allah", do u, Malaysia Muslims,are we not belittle other countries Muslims on this matter?
    Who dare to deny The God of Abraham is The Allah that The Jews, Muslims and Christians worship to?
    Long before The Koran the word Allah is used by many religions. Muslims are people of Allah, Allah will give them the wisdom and protect them from all the confusions created by the word Allah. May Allah bless us all.

  • perantau  - Why bother using "ALLAH" if you dont believe.

    Read this article written by Christian scholar
    http://answer-islam.org/ElahhisntAllah2.html

  • Samuel Goh Kim Eng  - DON'T YOU DARE BURN - 230113

    Do not any Holy Book try to burn
    Repent now and from all sins turn
    Let not any trouble be yours to churn
    Reacting, speaking and acting correctly are what you must learn

    (C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng
    http://motivationinmotion.blogspot.com
    Wed 23rd Jan 2013.

  • 1tosay

    If Muslims in other parts of the world can live happily with other faiths using the word "Allah", which we must always remember predates Islam, Muslims in Malaysia ( or rather, the so-called experts in Islam in this fair country ) have shown themselves to be an extraordinary breed quite apart from their brethrens elsewhere. Can someone simply take a word which has been in common usage all along and then claim that nobody else can use it now that they have decided to use it themselves? What and who gives them the right to do so?

    Those who insist that the word "Allah" can only be used by Muslims should perhaps apply to the relevant international court of justice and ask for a ruling that "Allah" can only be used by Muslims throughout the world and that nobody else has the right to do so, either in Malaysia or Timbuktu. This ought to settle the issue once and for all, not only in Malaysia, but globally. This will avoid confusing the hapless Malaysian Muslim who needs to travel to the Middle East, Indonesia, Africa or elsewhere, for business, holiday or study.

    No doubt Malaysia's numerous Islamic scholars, with their in-depth knowledge of Islam and world history, will be able to put forth convincing arguments in such an international court to support their case, and win hands down!

    Bravo, Malaysia! Muslims throughout the world will forever be grateful and indebted to you!

  • Samuel Goh Kim Eng  - PLAYING MONOPOLY WITH NAME? - 160113

    With God's name there can't be any monopoly
    It belongs to all those who worship Him as being holy
    Thus it will become a great grave human folly
    To put any embargo on His name and feel jolly

    (C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng
    http://motivationinmotion.blogspot.com
    Wed 16th Jan 2013.


  • Harry Oh  - Allah is not universal?

    I agree with Pak Sako. If the Muslim believe that Allah is the only creator, whether you are a Muslim or I'm a non-Muslim, Allah also created both of us.

  • Samuel Goh Kim Eng  - TO BE LEFT ALONE - 140113

    Let's all leave God's name(s) alone
    Since we are not required to help clone
    So don't let the issue be flown
    Around till it becomes over blown

    (C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng
    http://motivationinmotion.blogspot.com
    Mon 14th Jan 2013.

  • Ghab

    The 'Word' Allah is a Muslim and Malay thing and with much circumstances in peninsular Malaysia, and no business to the non Muslims.

    Why Lim Guan Eng being non Muslim and non Malay suddenly wants to be inebriated and bothered by the using the 'Word' Allah and make special acts about it?

    Why Lim Guan Eng wants to cause the using of the 'Word' 'Allah that would be different in the Malay language Bible for Christian in this country? Christians in Malaysia can do without sleepless night for not using the 'word' Allah. By the grace of The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost, the Christians have been saved from their sin by Jesus Christ the Lord, and the Christians have been remaining as Christian, and indeed as they are. More than that, they can still be in production for new born Christians.

    In a simple word, the dominant of Malaysian Christian congregations make no fuss about it. This is because they know what it means being a Christian. They have embedded their faith and personally know who was Jesus Christ and who is He really is. So why Lim Guan Eng is so fuss about (What the fuss, nothing happening) using the 'Word' Allah and urging the Federal government to allow Christians to use it.

    As reported, "pious platitudes......hearing on these occasions." Catholic Bishop Dr. Pual Tan Ing, uttering at the Prime Minister not only aiming at the good office of the Prime Minister but he, Najib Abdul Razak is 'pious platitude.'

    In a way, the Catholic Bishop was telling Najib  that Najib bin Abdul Razak bears the soul in characterizing hypocritical by virtue of his religious devotion which is Islam.

    Does his Holiness Catholic Bishop Dr Paul Tan in his prayers is thinking this situation? "If God thinks this state of war in the universe a price worth paying for free will then we may take that it is worth paying."

    What happen to the holy Bible when it says about LOVE? In series of verses: 1 Corinthians 13:4-8

    Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. 

    Romans 13:8  Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law.

    Peter 1:22  Having purified your souls by your obedience to the truth for a sincere brotherly love, love one another earnestly from a pure heart,

    My unholy words of advice to yours Excellency Catholic Bishop Dr. Pual Tan Ing:

    “Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy.”Frank Sinatra 

    Ecclesiastes 5:2 
    Do not be quick with your mouth, do not be hasty in your heart to utter anything before God. God is in heaven and you are on earth, so let your words be few.

    I am in heavy, smelling religiously of political Chauvinism rather than be the Holiness of a Bishop.

    Thinking about it ,it be better off to refrain the exhortation for using the 'Word' Allah in the environment of Muslim majority with the realization of tolerance and acceptance. So let see what the Bible has to say if the 'Word' Allah is used.

    King James 2000 Bible
    "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

    "In the beginning the Word already existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was God." English Standard Version (©2001)

    What it says, the 'Word' is Jesus Christ and Jesus is God and Jesus already existed before the formation of the universe. Here, the Christians have it to themselves, Christ is not only the Son of God but He is God. He is also God in sprite of the Holy Ghost and God the Farther Himself. The Christian has it all ! Three in One, The Godheads which is the Christian doctrine. Why Lim Guan Eng bothers about 'Allah'? Allah to the Muslim is One, the only One.

    Why the Muslim in peninsular Malaysia is thought to be so apprehensive about using the word Allah in the Malay language Bible? The issue of Allah is not about grabbing to use the name. It is the issue of philosophy. It is about ' Akidah' or Faith in Muslim's belief and submission. Allah is synonymous to One, only One. The mother tongue of the Malay is the Malay language. The Malay might be mistaken by the concept of Allah is One if it refers when happen to read the word of 'Allah' (Jesus Christ is God in the Godheads) used in the Malay language Bible. As the TRINITY in Christianity and Allah is One in Islam, both are DOCTRINES of the believers to their religions.

    Just imagine when the 'Word' Allah is used in these forms.

    "In the beginning was the Word (Jesus) , and the Word(Jesus) was with ALLAH, and the Word (Jesus) was ALLAH." New Living Translation (©2007) Qualifies that Jesus is Allah.

    "In the beginning the Word (Jesus) already existed. The Word (Jesus) was with ALLAH , and the Word (Jesus) was ALLAH." English Standard Version (©2001) Also qualifies Jesus is Allah.

    John 8:58 "I tell you the truth," Jesus (Allah)answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" Jesus exist before Abraham, Jesus is Allah.

    Colossians 1:15 He (Jesus) is the image of the invisible ALLAH, the firstborn over all creation.

    We don't need Pak Sako to understand this!! However, with peace in mind and harmony in thoughts and with streams of consciousness, I rest my case in the sprite of peace and harmony,

    Article 11 - Freedom of religion
    Article 11 provides that every person has the right to profess and practice his own religion. Every person has the right to propagate his religion, but state law and, in respect of the Federal Territories, federal law may control or restrict the propagation of any religious doctrine or belief among Muslims. There is, however, freedom to carry on missionary work among non-Muslims.

  • Samuel Goh Kim Eng  - TO CONFUSE & REFUSE - 110113

    It's so easy to become confused
    When stubborn minds simply refuse
    To accept truths that can help defuse
    The need to light up any controversial fuse

    (C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng
    http://motivationinmotion.blogspot.com
    Fri. 11th Jan 2013.

  • Samuel Goh Kim Eng  - re: WHOSE GOD AFTER ALL? - 090113
    Samuel Goh Kim Eng wrote:
    Is God your God, my God or our God?
    If the God is not God for all
    Then He may not be God at all
    It's not just the name with God to call
    It's through our sins we have mankind to fall
    Let's be open and learn to play ball
    And show the world we truly have gall
    So let's join in and be present at the public hall
    Without cracking our heads against the wall
    To think outside the box or even the mall
    That we may walk spiritually brave and tall
    (With spelling corrections in last two lines.)

    (C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng
    http://motivationinmotion.blogspot.comD
    Wed 9th Jan. 2013.

    Fri. 11th Jan 2013.

  • Samuel Goh Kim Eng  - WHAT TO BLOCK? - 100113

    What s strange rule to lock
    A name that's older than the rock
    There's no way anyone can block
    What God wants to share with His flock

    (C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng
    http://motivationinmotion.blogspot.com
    Thur. 10th Jan. 2013.

  • Samuel Goh Kim Eng  - SOME REFLECTIONS - 100113

    1) Front of t-shirt : Same Same
    Back of t-shirt : But Different
    2) George Orwell's 'Animal Farm'
    "All animals are equal
    But some are more equal than others."
    3) When we live in a world of illogical logic
    We will all experience unequal equality
    (C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng
    http://motivationinmotion.blogspot.com
    Thur 10th Jan 2013.

  • Charan Singh  - Five contradictions in restricting the use of 'All

    "so egotic and so adamant" great !!

  • Pak Yeh  - The issue is not use but misuse or abuse of the wo


    Don't Christians understand that it is illegal and devious to change someones name, and even more so your God's name.???
    Doing that could land them in hell if their God Yaweh disagree with the name change.!!!

    Christians have changed Yaweh's name to Father, And then they made Jesus the son of the Father./God.!!! Not only that, by calling their Priest Father,they thus made their Priests a God too.!!!
    They also made the Holy Ghost/Pontianak a god.!!!
    I am sure Yaweh is angry about that because Yaweh is a One God.!!!Refer Bible,..
    Isaiah 45:10,11,12.
    "I am the only god. There is none before Me and none after Me.And there is no Savior accept Me".

    The same deception will happen when Christians change their God's name to Allah. Allah will then also be given the name Father. Then Jesus can be made the son. And by calling their Priest Father, the Priests get to be Allah too.!!! You think Allah would like this.???

    This is what Christian deception is about. They must have learned this deception trick from Hitler's Propoganda Minister,Joeseph Geobbles, who said,"A lie repeated many times, becomes a truth."
    They must have learned this deception trick from Satan too, because Satan is the Chief Deceiver.
    Refer Quran.31:33 "... nor let the Chief Deceiver (Satan) deceive you about Allah."
    Quran 35:5 "O men! certainly the promise of Allah is true, Let not then this present life deceive you, nor let the Chief Deceiver deceive you about Allah."

    Allah in the Quran does not mind using His name as the One God, but He/Allah definitely abhors those who say he has a son, and those who say he is a Trinity sharing his powers with a "dead Jesus" and a "Holy Pontianak/Ghost".
    The Quran verses below states Allah's anger with Christians.
    Quran 5:72 and 5:73, (Proof that Jesus is not God and Allah is not a trinity.)
    "They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary. The Messiah (himself) said: O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Lo! whoso ascribeth partners unto Allah, for him Allah hath forbidden paradise. His abode is the Fire. For evil-doers there will be no helpers. (72) They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the third of three; when there is no God save the One God. If they desist not from so saying a painful doom will fall on those of them who disbelieve."(73)
    Quran 112: (Proof that Allah has no son.)
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    "Say: He is Allah, the One! (1) Allah, the eternally Besought of all! (2) He begetteth not(give birth) nor was begotten(born). (3) And there is none comparable unto Him." (4)

    Debate and educate yourselves @...
    http://warongpakyeh.blogspot.com/2013/01/christian -changing-gods-name-is.html

  • Rakyat Derita

    It is so sad that when we have rakyat who are struggling to put a roof over their heads, food on the table at every meal, education for our children, the rest of us are all so absorbed on who has the right to use a 5-letter word.

    And if you folks want to be stubborn and continue to argue about this ... the Arabs coined this 5-letter word, shouldn't the argument be confined to its use in Arabian writing? After all, 'ABC' is definitely not the original language of Islam but that of another race / religion (Christian Romans?)

  • OutOfBox  - No Turning Back

    A story in a near future
    Muslim Dad : Our god is only Allah, son
    Son : So, our god is the same as christian right? So can i convert to christian.
    Muslim Dad : No, son, you can't. Its murtad to do so, and its a big sin. Allah SWT in Islam is not the same as their god.
    Muslim Dad : No dad, you are wrong. In the Bible, they also refer to Allah as their god. I can't understand why it is different.
    Muslim Dad : .................

  • kampong lad  - allah is for all living souls

    averyone, muslims & non-muslims alike can address the creator allah. period!!!

  • mus rocco beginner  - 50% // 50%

    as'salamualakum

    i support your info Pak Sako.

    just wanna share a lil bit
    maybe just from my own perspective

    I'm glade that most of non Muslim know what "Allah" means and the meaning to us(the Muslim)
    in the level of sensitivity and respect.

    But from my experience i have excidently read a copy of bible in English for Malaysian edition
    i found it while i was check into a hotel room in penang,place inside my drawer, the way that the author describe "Allah" is really unacceptable.
    THEY USE ALLAH AS REFER TO GOD.

    YES ALLAH IS THE ONLY GOD.
    YES ALLAH IS THE CREATOR OF ALL.

    NO. ALLAH DOESN'T ACCEPT OTHER THAN ISLAM
    NO. ALLAH IS NOT A FATHER OF A "MAN"

    I KNOW IF ITS BAD MAYBE ITS JUST THIS AUTHOR ONLY, BUT WHAT IF ALL AUTHOR IN FUTURE CAN USE "ALLAH" WORDS, FROM THEIR OWN PERSPECTIVE.
    i know i couldn't blame all if just a few are making mistake. but prevention is always better than cure.

    FOR YOU IS YOUR RELIGIOUS,
    FOR ME ARE MY RELIGIOUS,
    YOU ARE NOT WORSHIPPING MY GOD
    AND IM NOT WORSHIPPING YOUR GOD
    *Surah Al-kafirun
    (try change the word GOD in my sentence to Allah than u should notice the problem)
    *trust me when i say

    But i always respect other religious.
    IM SO SMALL SO SORRY IF MY THOUGHT OFFENCE ANYONE.

  • Samuel Goh Kim Eng  - WHOSE GOD AFTER ALL? - 090113

    Is God your God, my God or our God?
    If the God is not God for all
    Then He may not be God at all
    It's not just the name with God to call
    It's through our sins we have mankind to fall
    Let's be open and learn to play ball
    And show the world we truly have gall
    So let's join in and be present at the public hall
    Without cracking our heads against the wall
    To think outside the box .ir even the mall
    That we may walk spiritually brave send tall

    (C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng
    http://motivationinmotion.blogspot.comD
    Wed 9th Jan. 2013.

  • prasanna krishnan  - I have used the Allah since I was a child and prou

    I do not wish to get into any form of confrontation with the use or non-usage of the word Allah.

    I come from Johore and am very proud to be a Johorean. I have sung the State Anthem since I was a student age 6. I have sung it proudly and gladly. I have sung it waving state flags made by us students and waved it as our Sultan drove past - in the streets, in the school and in the padangs.

    Allah peliharakan Sultan
    .....Allah selamatkan Sultan.

    I will continue to sing this anthem. In school most of us who grew up in the fifties and sixties used the world Allah very freely and spontaneously and nobody stopped us for we all knew we were referring to God, no matter what our particular religious denominations or affiliations may be.

  • Jhothy Krishnan  - Faith

    The fundamental faith of any religion is the acceptance of all human beings are born equal, so cant we equally share a name? will sharing compromise’s a person’s faith?

  • johari  - fully support

    finally, the definitive response to the wannabe mullahs and their patrons and supporters.

    A big Tk to Pak Sako.

    All Malays/Muslims must read this and embrace its logic.

  • bran

    i agree with your assessment.

    my opinion is that there always must be unity.

    Forces that try to create dis-unity or segregation will eventually be seen as incomplete and thus not the whole thruth.

  • InnerVoice

    Firstly, why dont the religious head of every denomination of a religion to sit down and discuss and deliberate among themselves whether they all can agree and accept the idea or notion of only one Creator in the spiritual realm or space? Secondly, if all these heads are unable to come to a consensus that all living beings were created by a common Creator, Supreme Being or Almighty or Lord or God or whatever name it was given by its followers, then any disputes involving religious matters will not be resolve amicably or no solutions be able to remedy it anyway till doomsday. As each head of the religion are so egotic and so adamant that only their all powerful Supreme Being, Almighty or God or Allah is better than any other of its equivalent Supreme Being, Almighty, God or Allah from other religion denomination, the world will never be in peace and the human race are going to be self destructed if the humans continue to believe in these religious bigots.

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